seeprime
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Aren't Linux drivers baked into the kernel, and therefore better controlled than Windows drivers, some of which apparently can slip into the kernel? I don't code. So, any education would be appreciated.
The internet reacts to the CrowdStrike IT disaster that crashed computers worldwide
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This was one of the most popular deals and the most popular software deal on slickdeals on Friday.
FaTaL
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seeprime
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That got ironic quickly.
Of course it does. Linux is actually worse, because it has a monolithic kernel, which means there are no boundaries between components in the kernel, and everything can corrupt everything else. Windows on the other side is using a microkernel inspired hybrid kernel, which offers a lot higher protection against random corruption of the things living inside the kernel.
Then again, once there's a kernel level fault, there's no recovery from that (unless you're using a true microkernel, which is however very expensive in terms of processing overhead), and the fault lies with the component that caused the kernel fault, which in this case is CrowdStrike's software, not with the system, and not with the vendor of the system, who can do nothing to prevent this.
I have to laugh at the title "the internet reacts..." and then proceeds to list a bunch of twitter/X posts. You do know there's more to the internet than twitter/X? This is really low quality "journalism".
gamerk2
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In which case, because of the potential liabilities, they'll just abandon all security rather then risk the potential financial penalties.
daffy duck
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Maybe Nuclearstrike would be a better name for the company.
Yet again we allow a single company to dominate a tech sector and lazy arsed CEO's and boards of companies swallow the BS spiel by Crowdstrike promising them the world and blindly sign up and don't ever ask about contingency plans or what are worst case scenarios. Also most of these companies have sacked or greatly reduced their IT staff support.
We just keep making the same mistakes over and over bit the consequences of allowing a few companies to run the world keep getting worse and worse. Let's not forget the recent epic cluster fcuk by Google in nearly destroying UniSuper in Australia which looks after the superannuation of over 600000 people.
Yet again we allow a single company to dominate a tech sector and lazy arsed CEO's and boards of companies swallow the BS spiel by Crowdstrike promising them the world and blindly sign up and don't ever ask about contingency plans or what are worst case scenarios. Also most of these companies have sacked or greatly reduced their IT staff support.
We just keep making the same mistakes over and over bit the consequences of allowing a few companies to run the world keep getting worse and worse. Let's not forget the recent epic cluster fcuk by Google in nearly destroying UniSuper in Australia which looks after the superannuation of over 600000 people.
zamroni111
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Meanwhile free windows defender has setting to allow 48 hour delay for engine update.
https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/defender-endpoint/configure-updates?view=o365-worldwide#powershell
https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/defender-endpoint/configure-updates?view=o365-worldwide#powershell
zamroni111
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tell me how Microsoft can prevent that?
crowd strike update doesn't use windows update system.
axiomatic13
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It has a wildcard because you are searching for a file to delete in File Explorer. Like you said, it is not the actual filename, but the wildcard still works for the instructions.
Trapped Nowhere
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I liked the usual fear mongering accounts crying about bill gates and netflix movies lol
MS designed Windows to be that restrictive and invasive for such event to occurs eventually.
They are sharing a big part of the blame by letting external software able to impact the kernel to that level.
If you knew about Anti-Virus under Windows, you would know.
Not that all your statements wouldn't be false on their own anyway, but the fact that CrowdStrike actually had the very same issue a month ago on Linux systems, where their very same software (Falcon Sensor) caused the very same kind of kernel fault (which is called kernel panic under Linux, but it's the same thing as a BSOD) completely obliterates any claims that tries to push the blame on Microsoft, who in reality
1. was not a tiny bit responsible for this issue
2. couldn't have done anything better to prevent it
3. was the first to offer a remedy for its users, providing not only detailed instructions on how to recover, but also a bootable image that does the repair automatically.
seeprime
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CrowdStrike has terrible QA since updates did indeed take down both Linux and Windows systems weeks apart. They seriously need to hire many more QA engineers. They're just cheap, using Agile, which is not ideal for public facing software. Maybe the recent publicity will shake things up.
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